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krug3r
10-11-2003, 11:45
In three weeks a new law will come into force banning drivers from using mobile phones while at the wheel. Only it's not quite as straightforward as that...

Traffic police are going to have their work cut out come 1 December, when new laws come into effect clamping down on drivers using mobile phones.

A quarter of drivers who know about the law will ignore it, according to research by a mobile headset manufacturer, Jabra. The same survey found 40% of motorists were unaware of the new legislation, which is designed to promote safety on the road.

On top of that, among those that are aware, there is widespread confusion about what exactly is outlawed.

Initially, the government had sought a blanket ban on all drivers using mobiles. Then it seemed to opt for an exception that would allow factory-fitted hands-free sets.

The final legislation is more relaxed, but that has led to claims it is too confusing. So here, we answer 10 questions about what you will and will not be allowed to do while driving.

Motorists must already drive with due care and attention
New law will allow police to stop driver using a mobile, no matter how careful they are
Breaking the rules means a £30 on-the-spot fine or up to £1,000 in court

Can I use my ordinary mobile handset?
"Hand-held" is the watchword in the new regulations. If you need to hold your mobile handset then you will be in breach of the new law and liable for a £30 on the spot fine.

What about hands-free kit?
Using hands-free equipment will not be an exception, if you still have to hold the mobile handset to dial a number or even just to press the "receive call" button when someone is ringing you.

So I have to get a factory fitted mobile?
No, a cradle that holds your mobile and is fixed to the dashboard will do the job. You will need a hands-free kit to continue the conversation, such as an earpiece and microphone or a Bluetooth headset. Interactive PDAs and navigation aids will also need cradles.

HOW TO MAKE SAFER CALLS
Keep calls short - do not argue or enter intense negotiations
Tell callers you are driving and may need to break off your conversation suddenly
Save any numbers you may need to a shortcut dial before starting your journey

What if I cradle the phone on my shoulder?
Propping a mobile between your shoulder and chin will not be tolerated since you will still seen as holding the phone, albeit not with your hands.

What about texting?
Texting is also out, although it seems tapping out a text would be allowed if the phone remained fixed in a cradle. But this is likely to fall foul of the existing rules that you must drive with due care and attention.

So do I have to switch my phone off?
No. Phones can be left on in a car, but, unless you have hands-free kit, if you are driving when it rings you must ignore it or pull in and park safely before answering it.

What if I'm waiting at traffic lights?
You are still considered to be driving. The same goes for if you are stuck in a traffic jam. In really bad snarl ups, however, you would clearly not thought to be driving if your engine was turned off.

Bluetooth headsets do away with distracting wires
What about an emergency call?
There is an exemption for 999/112 calls to the emergency services where it is unsafe or impractical to stop.

I've got to use a phone for my job
Not good enough. You will still be liable for a penalty. If your boss has insisted you take calls while driving he or she could also be breaking the law.

Breaker, breaker... what about CB radio?
Curiously perhaps, two-way radio is not covered by the law, so it's not an offence to have a conversation while driving, using a hand-held CB radio microphone. Two-way radios that double up as mobiles will not be allowed, though.

catherinehkga
10-11-2003, 13:20
Are we talking all "receive call" buttons or just on the phone when it not in a cradle?
All the fully install car kit we have need a button on the phone pushed to receive a call. The personal hands free with the earpiece and bluetooth kits all have buttons. There are options within the mobiles to have the call automatically answered.

Thank you for the information, I had though it was only if you were holding the phone to your ear and texting.

theecspec
10-11-2003, 14:02
Orange contract customers should find some literature in their bills regarding this bill.

Bluetooth headsets are coming down in price....


So get one!

krug3r
10-11-2003, 16:10
Yep agree BT headsets are the way to go...

catherinehkga
10-11-2003, 16:38
You still have to push a button when use a blue tooth headset.

theecspec
10-11-2003, 18:19
No you don't

Set it to automatic answer and two rings later...bum bum.

I think its allowed to look at your phone first to see who is ringing.

I use the Jabra BT200.

krug3r
28-11-2003, 19:57
A reminder to all users that the law is about to come into effect in the UK Dec 1st...so be prepared :)

joolsvern
01-12-2003, 09:11
Alternatively you could get your windows replaced with one way glass, but a bit expensive.

THIS IS A JOKE AND NOT INTENDED TO ASSIST PEOPLE TO BREAK THE LAW.

catherinehkga
01-12-2003, 09:34
Has anyone noticed how confused and different the news reports were over the weekend!:conf:

krug3r
01-12-2003, 11:54
I know its a bit daft there's so many people who don't know where the line can be drawn....easiest advice is not to use one...or pull over....

nick
02-12-2003, 18:47
The amount of people I saw today still using their phones.

In the local rag today, the excuses were...

" I didn't know there was a ban in force. There needs to be more notices around. Unless you sit around all day in front of the TV, how are you supposed to know about it?" It's been in the papers and on the TV and radio for a while now. Plain ignorance.

"I thought it was OK if you were in a traffic jam." Bo**ocks!!!!

"It's an infringement of our civil liberties!" Imagine all those people caught going to the Human Rights court to get their £30 fines overturned!!

Most of the people the local paper caught were white van drivers (what a surprise)!!!!

Quite a few people WERE taking notice of the new ban.
I couldn't get into my lay-by for my bacon roll cos it was full of cars pulled over and people talking on their phones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sod them, what about my stomach???????????

nick
06-12-2003, 17:33
The ultimate hands free kit....

diesel57
09-12-2003, 16:22
i`l just use the elastic band till i get xmas over me ,it was cheap to lmao :snipe:

legend_killer
30-01-2004, 21:00
I just seen someone still using mobile phone whilst driving.

Gman
04-02-2004, 06:51
Alternatively you could get your windows replaced with one way glass, but a bit expensive.

THIS IS A JOKE AND NOT INTENDED TO ASSIST PEOPLE TO BREAK THE LAW.
Don't joke all the time